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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 4:51 pm Reply with quote
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Sorry for replying late on this topic, my father turned 75 this week and I have been busy with preparations for his day. Very Happy

There is a debate going on in the chinese crested forums in Norway now concerning raw feeding vs dry formula. Almost all of the CC breeders in Norway is now turning to raw food. There have been documentarys on TV about this and lots to read in dog magazines.

The major consernes in Norway is that it is often the producers of the dry formula that provides the negative info about raw feeding. Veterinarians are usually making money by redistributing dry formula. This is not good! After all, we must never forget that however domesticated and cute they are, dogs are predators. This is important to remember. http://www.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/note.php?note_id=117497803160&ref=mf **quote from Cesar Milan.

My food recipe is really very simple. They (my xolo and my 2 chinese cresteds) eat as much raw chickennecks as they want during the days. The amount may vary from day to day, but Ymer the xolo in average eats 750g- 1kg. In addition i sometimes serve dark bread, rice, bulgur, fruits, vegetables or fish. They often have meatbones.

After my CC's changed their diet from dry formula (I used the one that was best in test in Norway) to raw food I can see that their skin is much better, hardly any pimples or fat/dry skin. Their teeth are fine. They enjoy eating, I had problems maintaining their weight, they were too skinny. Now they have normal weight.

For me as a dog owner/pack leader the dry formula is the absolutely easiest way to feed my dogs, no discussion about that. Open the bag, feed, that is it. The chickennecks... Rolling Eyes I have a huge freezebox that now is full of necks and bones and I have to buy one more, there are hardly any room for human food. I have to remember to take them out of the freezer to defrost every night. When I buy them they come directly from the butcher in packs of 20 kilo. So I have to semi-defrost and separate them into small bags containing 1 kilo. It breakes my nails and it is a horrible mess... Rolling Eyes Shocked Blood and gooey mess all over... And the smell... Crying or Very sad Then when they eat there are bloodstains all over the floor...

We threw out our turkish carpet and replaced it with a cheap easy to clean carpet... Rolling Eyes They farth.. And it smells.. But for the dogs I am absolutely convinced that it is the best I can provide them.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 7:28 pm Reply with quote
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Wow!!
It seems that your dogs really enjoy their meal!!

I still have my doubts about this diet... like I've said before my dogs get a nasty yellow diarrea (hehe too many details Laughing ) and they fart a lot (the smell is horrible!).
My mom had a boxer when she was young, and that boxer had the BARF diet... she really love chicken necks, and she had an amazing soft and shinny coat, but she had the same problem I have with mine when I used to give them that diet (fart and nasty poo).
I think is one thing for another, nice skin and coat for nasty farts and poo Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 3:13 pm Reply with quote
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Strange that they get this diarrea, mine never has, their poo is like rabbit poo, dry and hard. The smell and level of fart I agree on.

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Gio, how long did you tried the diet? couldnt it have been just the change of diet which made them get diarrea?

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 6:51 pm Reply with quote
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I started chaging it gradually (part barf diet part dry food), and they had this food for about a month,all that time they had yellow diarrea (some days it was just soft poop, not that liquid) and a lot of farts!!
They loved it, and they got really happy when I was about to feed them, but I don't like soft poo (or diarrea) nor farts.
With their usual food (dry food and the food that I prepare Tiku) their feces are solid, with good color (not yellow), and the smell is the "usual" poo smell (not horrible like when they had that diet)...

That's why I'm very interested in this diet. I've heard tons of good things about BARF diet, but after I tried it I wasn't that sure about it. My parents totally hate it Laughing (they are not dog people, so they couldn't stand the smell of the feces and farts)
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I was very interested of BARF-system some times ago, because I think it is the most naturally and useful for dogs. But I wasn't able to feed Dan this way, because he had some allergy after leaving to my home (maybe it was because of changing the water, or something else)... Three months (from his 2 to his 5) I gave him only dry food, but after I have found that the allergy was flown away!
Gradually I began to give Dan meat (sometimes row, sometimes pouring boiling water) and additions (sereals and vegetables). And now he is eating these products generally. He grows up well and his weight now 28 kg (heigh 53 sm). I want to pass him to BARF absolutely, but the soft excrements are discountenanced me. It isn't diarrea, but they are very soft. Sad

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 9:03 am Reply with quote
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i do not have xolos lol, but i feed my PWD with diamond, and I add, rice, pasta, apple or carrot and meat, it dipends, turkey or chiken, and he will noyt eat bnot even a pice of his favorite meat if you don't give him tortilla, lol.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 7:29 pm Reply with quote
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Laughing Ara it's so funny that Juanito won't eat without his tortilla!! Laughing

I know what you mean Ingunn, that's exactly what happen with my babies.
I'm sure the Barf diet is good for dogs, but the results I got with my xolos didn't convinced me.
As soon as I return to dry food the yellow diarrea and/or soft feces stoped, and now their poo is normal and hard, the smell is not as strong as when they had the Barf diet... it was a "usual" poo smell, not hideous...
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I feed my dog only with dry formula, Proplan, some times I add meat in cans mixed with the dry food, some times I mixed the dry with broth and chicken liver... but I woul like to ear what is better for them is it ok to feed them only with dry food and mixed with meat can or is it ok give them occacionally our food??
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