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PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 1:25 pm Reply with quote
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The kennel «svetlana’s fashion» (RKF-FCI, XCUSA) would like to invite you to the scientifically-practical conference and workshop for FCI - judges

“THESE UNKNOWN “MEXICANS”.

By informational support of: the FCM (Federacion Canofila Mexicana), MVZ Sr. Cesar Gutierrez Perez (Mexico) the Museum of Anthropologic (Mexico) Dr. Raul Valadez Azua, & the Russian Zoo-Institute (Russian Academy of Sciences) Dr. Mikhail Sablin,

The theme of conference: main Mexican breeds - Chihuahueno and Xoloitzcuintle,

The purpose of the conference: problems, judging specific, genetic etc. of Mexican breeds, acquaintance with some newest scientifically information in archeology, genetic of these dogs etc.

The conference takes place on March the 6th , 2009 in St. Petersburg, Russia before the Shows “Baltic Show” with the titles CAC and RKF-Champion, Specialty of the Naked dogs and CACIB-show on March the 7th – 8th , 2009

Deadline for registration: February the 15th , 2009 (because of the conference-hall).Conditions for registration: send us copy of your judging list to following addresses info@chihuahua.spb.ru or sergeypskuratov@msn.com

You will be registered and get your number, after that all questions, which you have about judging, determinations of mutts, condition of hairless dogs, colours etc., will be registered under your account. After translation it will be sent to the most competent person for the answer. If you want to do report or presentation to the theme, send your thesis to the mails until the deadline, because all questions, reports and presentations will be registered and translated.

Costs: We are very sorry, that we are not able to pay your travel costs, because we haven’t any financial sponsors. The costs of the conference are ca. EUR 30,-

All members of the seminar get after the show the CD with the information and thesis of the seminar. If you need more information we will send it to you and could help you with arrival to St. Petersburg. We would be grateful to you, if you could visit this seminar and we are thankful for your attention. You are welcome!

Sincerely yours,

Dr. Sergey P. Skuratov and Svetlana Kuehnel (Dr. pr.)SVETLANA’s FASHION (RKF-FCI) http://chihuahua.spb.ru, http://xolo.spb.ru

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 2:00 pm Reply with quote
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Thanks Mestre for sharing this valuable information!

Gracias Mestre por compartir esta informacion tan valiosa
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 3:56 pm Reply with quote
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Pues si pero para los mexican curios como yo me quede con la cara de WHAT?

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 4:14 pm Reply with quote
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Jeje en un momento termino la traduccion para que todos puedan leerlo. Me voy a tardar un poco porque me atrase en esto de la traduccion pero ahi la llevo.

Hehe in a moment the translation will be done so everybody can read it. Its going to take a while cause I got delayed on the translation issue but its coming.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 10:59 am Reply with quote
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Xolote wrote:
Pues si pero para los mexican curios como yo me quede con la cara de WHAT?

Will be better, if it will be tranlated, but..
The Mayan's hieroglyphics was decripted in Leningrad, in Russia, in USSR, by Dr.Dr. Knorozoff at 1956. Not any other scientist can't did it. Why I can't know Xolos&Chis? I have similar four letters before my first name. And I'm specialist by systematic's mistakes. In all Mexican & USA's researching had and have systematic's mistakes.
Full information about conference have C. Gutierres Perez, now. This information I'll send to Dr. R. Valadez Azua in few time, which know me and my wife about five years.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 6:50 pm Reply with quote
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Sergio una disculpa, con eso de los examenes se me fue la onda y no traduje lo del Seminario.
Pero, ya porfin aqui esta!

El criadero "Svetlana's Fashion" (RKF-FCI, XCUSA) desea invitarte a la conferencia cientifica-practica y al taller de jueces-FCI.

"ESTOS DESCONOCIDOS MEXICANOS"

Con el apoyo informativo de la FCM (Federacion Canofila Mexicana), MVZ Sr. Cesar Gutierrez Peres (Mexico), el Museo de Antropologia (Mexico) Dr. Raul Valadez Azua, & el Instituto del Zoologico de Russia (ACademia Rusa de Ciencias) Dr. Mikhail Sablin.

El tema de la conferencia: principalmente razas de Mexico - Chihuahueño y Xoloitzcuintle.

El proposito de la conferencia: problemas, juzgamientos especificos, genetica, etc. de las razas mexicanas, conocimiento mas reciente de informacion cientifica, arqueologica y genetica de estos perros.

La conferencia se llevara a cabo el 6 de Marzo, 2009 en St. Petersburgo, Rusia antes de las Exposiciones "Baltic Show", donde se daran los puntos CAC y RKF para el campeonato, Especializada de perros desnudos y expos-CACIH el 7 y 8 de marzo, 2009.

Fecha limite para registracion, 15 de febrero, 2009 (debido a la sala de conferencias). Condiciones para la inscripcion: enviar copia de tu lista a juzgar a las siguientes direcciones info@chihuahua.spb.ru o sergeypskuratov@msn.com

Van a ser registrados y obtendran su numero, despues de eso todas las preguntas que usted tenga acerca de juzgar, las determinaciones de criollos condicion de perros sin pelo, colores, etc. seran registradas bajo tu cuenta.
Despues de la traduccion seran enviadas a la persona mas competente para la respuesta. Si quieres se puede hacer un reporte o presentacion al tema, manda tu tesis a los mails antes de la fecha limite, porque todas las preguntas, reportes y presentaciones seran registradas y traducidas.

Costo: Sentimos muchos que no seamos capaces de pagar sus gastos de viaje, porque no tenemos patrocinadores financieros. El costo de la conferencia es de aprox. 30 EUR

Todos los miembros del seminario tendran al finalizar la exposicion el CD con la informacion y la tesis del seminario. Si necesitas mas informacion te la enviaremos y podemos ayudarle con su llegada a San Petersbugro. Estaremos agradecidos con usted, si puede visitar el seminario y le agradecemos por su atencion. Son bienvenidos!

Atentamente,
Dr.Sergey P. Skuratov y Svetlana Kuehnel (Dr.pr.)
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 3:43 pm Reply with quote
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Gio wrote:
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Thanks, Gio!
We made this conference on 06.03.09. It was successfully!
I'ld like to knonw the translation of: "Pues si pero para los mexican curios como yo me quede con la cara de WHAT?" Because my Word2007 given me very uncorrect translation.
About conference:
We had three speeches:
1. General roots & general signs of Mexican breeds.
2. Standards: its mistakes and faults. (Part one: Sc. Chihuahueno) (Cynological and linguistical expert examination)
3. Standards: its mistakes and faults. (Part one: Xoloitzcuintle) (Cynological and linguistical expert examination)
We found about 20 mistakes into Standards of National Mexican breeds and standards is not in conditions with historical views of the breeds.
Sr. C. Gutierrez Perez answered on part of the questions, but told that all speeches was in full correspondence with history of breeds and history of Mesoamerica. About other part of questions he told, that he can't answer because of standard's Committee! It is necessary to change the standards.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 11:10 am Reply with quote
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Hi Svetlana,

The sentence that you couldn't understood is just a funny way in Spanish to ask for translation as many mexicans members of this group doesn't speak or read English, thats all.

La oración que no pudiste entender, es sólo una forma graciosa de pedir una traducción, ya que muchos miembros mexicanos de este grupo, no hablan, ni leen inglés, eso es todo.

Large congratulations for the conference successes! please let us know more about it. How many people(breeders, judges, etc) attended? All the details are interesting.

I'm pretty sure that Mr. Gutierrez Perez did his very best.

Grandes felicitaciones por el éxito de la conferencia! Por favor, dejanos saber más sobre esto. Cuanta gente (criadores, jueces y etc) asistió? Todos los detalles son interesantes.

Estoy convencido de que el Sr. Gutierrez Perez, dio su mejor esfuerzo.

Regarding the mistakes in the xolo breed standard, yes, I must said that there are some and everybody has said somethings about since the last edition on 07. As far as we know, the FCI allow members to make substantial changes on the text every five years, but the standards committee within can correct some parts before that lapse of time, it can be done in order to follow their general directions for canine breeds health and welfare worldwide.

Sobre los errores en la norma racial del xolo, debo decir que si existen y que todos hemos dicho algunas cosas desde su última publicación en 07. Tanto como sabemos, la FCI permite a sus miembros hacer cambios sustanciales en sus textos cada cinco años, pero su comité de estándares, puede corregir algunas partes antes de ese tiempo. Esto, se puede hacer para seguir sus direcciones y políticas generales en pro de la salud y bien estar de las razas caninas en el mundo.

I'm totally sure that the next modification of the xoloitzcuintle breed standard will be done by a Mexican specialized committee.

Estoy muy seguro que la siguiente modificación del estándar racial, será hecha por un comité mexicano especializado,

By the way, yesterday I got from Dr. Valadez the Russian translation of our first book written together and published by our national university UNAM in 99, "Historia del xoloitzcuintle en México" I would like to thank you and Sergey for all the effort. Even when there are some small points to discusse It is very nice for us when our work can be reed in different languages.

Por cierto, ayer recibí del Dr. Valadez, la traducción al ruso de nuestro primer libro escrito en conjunto, publicado por la UNAM en 99, "Historia del xoloitzcuintle en México". Quiero agradecerte a ti y a Sergey por todo el esfuerzo. Aun cuando todavía existen algunos puntos por definir, es muy agradable para nosotros cuando nuestro trabajo puede ser leido en diferentes idiomas.

Best wishes

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Hola a todos:
Poniéndome al corriente, este tema es muy interesante, ya que la capacitación a jueces, criadores y canófilos en general, siempre es muy valiosa, espero que se tengan ya algunos datos de este seminario.
Felicitaciones al Dr. Valadez y a Gabriel Mestre por la traducción de su libro....no caería mal una imagen del ejemplar ruso.

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